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At 6:40pm on November 14, 2009, Adrienne said…: Hi Alice, Have you gone to seek a second opinion for Finn or still trying to decide?
How his he doing these days?

At 1:51pm on November 12, 2009, Shelby Shirley said…: Hi Alice - sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you - crazy around here. Leo's story starts back in the mid summer when he was chasing a ball at about 16 months old. He just came up lame. No yelping or vocalizing pain, just limping on back right leg. I let it go thinking it was not big deal but it just never seemed to go away. Then probably in September he was outside goofing around, let out a yelp and was holding the leg up and wouldn't bear any weight on it. Went to the vet (not an expert in dwarf breeds) for X-rays and nothing really showed up however she commented that his hips could look like the start of hip dysplasia (SP?). Heads of the balls were rather flat in the sockets and not real deep. Also noted "something funny" in the right knee that may or may not be in the left knee - wasn't as clear in left as right. So.... we went to another vet for a 2nd opinion who is better at orthopedics than the first vet. Meanwhile I started him on Rimadyl (75mg/day and Leo weighs 32 pounds so that was slightly more than he should've had ) but never really noticed that it was helping. I was also beginning to put him on supplements like glucosamine/msm/chondroitan sulfate/creatin, etc. So 2nd vet really had no answer either. Whenever anyone has examined him the physical manipulation of the joints indicate no CCL tear or excessive joint movements. He doesn't exhibit pain or react like anyone is hurting him - but none the less everyone sees the limp/slow to go from laying to sitting to standing. This vet also agreed there maybe "something" in the patella area that "looks funny" but nothing significant. His feeling was that at his age his hips really didn't look that bad for a dwarf breed. The only thing he advised was to re-do x-rays under sedation to see if anything more showed up that way. The first vet assured me sedated x-rays wouldn't be much different as he was perfectly relaxed and very cooperative the first time. So we also started underwater treadmill therapy. The first session was fine but about 3 days later he was very lame. The next session the therapist also did a cold laser treatment after the treadmill and he seemed great for the next week but then I noticed his decision to not even try to get up on the couch or recliner chairs anymore. That was huge since his favorite place to lay was on the back of the couch to look out the window. He used to always jump up to sit with me and one day it dawned on me he wasn't doing that anymore. He would walk up to the couch and you could see him try to gather himself to jump up, make a half hearted effort to do so and then just turn away and go lay on the floor. I really felt bad about that since now I could see him choosing to alter his lifestyle do to pain. Sooo.... next stop "doggy Chiropractor". Nice informative visit but still no answers. Apparently, chiropractric manipulation on tailess dogs is limited. She did find some "owies" in his upper back but didn't think that would have an effect on the hips/leg region. Told me that often times tailess/docked tailed dogs do have discomfort/pain in their rear ends because when they sit they "sit" on the stubs which can cause pressure up the line. Basically she had no better answers either. They took a lateral xray as the other ones I had done were in the prone position but nothing showed up in the spine either. She suggested that since I really didn't notice a difference when he was on the pain pills or off the pain pills that I take him off and see how he does. Sooo.... he's been off the Rimadyl for about 3-4 weeks now, I have him on very high dose supplements in addition to being on Wellness - Core dog food which has very good Omega 3 and 6 ratios, vitamin e and other good "stuff". I'm still taking him to the water treadmill therapy once a week. There is really no change in him. Still gets up slowly, no whining or yelping, only rests on his right back tippy toes when he stands, does have a limp that's worse some days and not so obvious other days, does not try very often to jump up on furniture. Somedays he can do it, others not. I'm at a stand still with him until his condition prompts me to go back to the vet. I know he's not the dog he was 6-7 months ago but short of doing exploratory surgery to see what's up I haven't found an answer yet. I know supplements can take a good 6-9 weeks before you start to see results and also phyical therapy can take a while to see improvements. Cost for me hasn't played a huge role in this process yet. I work at a vet clinic (large animal/ not much small animal) but the first vet I went to used to work for us so I got a pretty good deal on the x-rays (visit with 3 xrays was $70). The physical therapist was $65 for the initial consult/treatment and then a pkg of 6 sessions for $200. The chiropractor visit was about 45 minutes long with the one xray and that was $80??? (This vet also worked for us for a short time on a fill in basis while one of our other vets was out). The 2nd opinion Vet was about a half hour long and that was $45????

Long story but that's about it. I still have no answers. If it really is a CCL tear the only way to know for sure is exploratory surgery which I won't do yet. If it really ruptures or tears completely he'll show more pain and it won't come and go it will be persistent, or so I'm told. If it's his hips - well what can you do? Hip replacement surgery? Nope - not an option. I love Leo to death but I'm also a realist and to go into debt isn't an option. If I can control his pain with supplements and/or pain meds that's what I'll do. More often than not with either a CCL tear and repair the other leg will go too and with hip replacement they will get arthritis anyways and then you're still going to have to give them pain meds and supplements. So I've really just tossed my hands in the air and am waiting to see what happens. Sorry for the lengthy story - it's a long journey! Shelby

At 7:05pm on November 6, 2009, Garrett, Katie, & Conan said…: Thanks! Conan's ears are probably my favorite thing about him. They didn't stand until he was around 6 months. For a long time he had one up and one down, it was too cute.

Finn definitely looks like a lot of fun! I think having one of each Corgi would be the perfect combo of dogs! I'm slowly trying to talk Garrett into it. For him... Conan is more than enough energy haha!

At 7:01pm on November 5, 2009, Garrett, Katie, & Conan said…: Hey Alice! I was looking around on your page and I must say that Finn is absolutely stunning! I've been considering another Corgi (though it'll still be a few years away) and was thinking about a Cardigan. Your boy has definitely swayed my decision. Sounds like he's tons of fun to be around too :)

At 5:49pm on November 4, 2009, Kristin P said…: HAHA My husband was the same way about Twilight! He was watching the movie (by himself!) one day while I was at work and kept texting me questions like "What's Jasper's secret power?" "What does Alice do?" haha Silly men.

At 1:40pm on November 4, 2009, Buddy & Wynstan said…: congratulations on Finn getting corgi pic of the day today! He is a very beautiful pup

At 6:56pm on November 3, 2009, Michelle Anderson said…: Thank you! I love the blue merles! So gorgeous!

At 4:23pm on November 1, 2009, Adrienne said…: Dash is 9 months old. About a month ago we let him roam around the house and put the pin up because he was so calm..... as you say a result from the VF. We have since returned him to crate and pin training. He already is behaving better. I've been able to exercise him more regularly which is helping. We went trick or treating with friends last night and Dash wore his costume. His leg seems to be doing better. I saved some pain meds so that when he has a bout of pain I don't have to run him to the vet again.
Can Finn have arthritis at such a young age? Hope resolution to his situation comes soon.

At 12:05am on October 30, 2009, Adrienne said…: So you talked to the vet on the phone? No apt yet, correct?
I know that your xrays are from 5 months ago but I would think that they would see what your vet saw. Was arthritis what your vet said Finn had in his hips?
I was lead to believe by Dr.Lirtzman that its hard to tell an ACL tear in an xray. Maybe he was just referring to my xrays.

The medicine Dash is on I think makes him hyper, he is "hell on wheels" jumping and nipping. Im was training him before all this went down and got away because of his leg and we went on vacation. My methods don't seem to help. He feels so good , I think he has all this pent up energy. I just don't want to over due it with the exercise..... I know you can relate.
Anyway, tomorrow starts back with the training regimen I had before.
I think because he didn't feel well he's always been pretty mellow and now Im getting the real corgi puppy. Yikes!

At 11:09pm on October 28, 2009, Adrienne said…: I believe there are only two Drs at Animal Specialty Group. I saw Dr. Zirtzman, he is a male and the other is a female. Dr. Zirtzman is very nice and explains everything to you. My husband recently took him in and Dash saw the female Dr., I don't know her name...... she does have a corgi.
The consult is $145 but you get a discount right? Take your xrays from the other vet and that should save you money as well. I think you have to go with your gut feeling. That second opinion weather its different from your vets or not may just give you some piece of mind. You may just have to take the risk of spending some money to confirm the other vets diagnosis.
This last visit Recheck exam $48, XRAY follow up (2 Views) $81 and pain med $20.52. Just to give you an idea.

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Hometown:: Phoenix, Az

About Me:: I knew I wanted a corgi since I was a little girl. How can you resist those big ears and those short little legs? After debating between a Pembroke and a Cardigan for quite some time, my husband and I decided we loved the blue merle Cardigans. Five and a half years later, after much searching, we finally have our own little blue boy.

Welsh Corgi Breeder?: No

About My Corgi(s):: Finnigan is a blue merle Cardigan Welsh Corgi. He was born September 15, 2008. From the moment the litter was born, he was our favorite. He had everything we looked for in a blue merle. As we watched him develope more, we knew he was the one for us. Tragically, the rest of the litter was lost due to a virus leaving Finn the only survivor. The couple ahead of us decided to wait for the next litter which meant Finnigan would be ours. It must have been fate, and we couldn't be more happy to have him in our family.